If Jesus did all the miracles, then why did it take so long for Christianity to gain many followers?
On December - 7 - 2009
christianity was just a sect even after Jesus’ death. Why so? If someone like Jesus came today and performed miracles, naturally everyone in the world would believe him instantly. Then why at that time people still opposed him knowing that everything about opposing God and going to Hell is true?
Non sequitur: jesus did not perform miracles in order to attract followers.
they had to be born first
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Belief in god is not needed for salvation, only good works are - belief just helps direct people towards good works, good deeds - and living a kind and helpful life.
For, as it says in the bible: "belief without works is dead" - James 2.20
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Non sequitur: Jesus did not perform miracles in order to attract followers.
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how many of us believe follow or obey GOD even knowing tha HE is the ultimate power? satanic powers always play their role
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when they changed it the way they like
and the bible became bibles
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muslim
Hell was not in the early church. It was made up by the time the catholics came along, a man last name Dante, wrote a piece of literature called something like Hells burning Inferno, and the catholic church took it to scare the people and keep them in control, it was never in the original church. You can find this on the internet.
Also the religious system at the time didnt want to loose their jobs. If they believe in Jesus they would be out of a job, no more sacrifices etc. Ask a Jew or search the internet.
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They didnt have telephones in those days now did they? So how could other countries know immediately about Jesus. It would take time for the whole world to know in those days.
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No , you are completely wrong. Christianity is the one of the fastest growing religion in the world.
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Because they came to great numbers through preaching and traveling. They didn’t use force, enslavement, and invasion to gain numbers, like some religions.
Jesus preached mainly in Israel. He had many, many followers. Enough that the Romans and the Pharisees were really worried he would stray their subjects away from them. That’s why he was killed.
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Why would you believe in a miracle instantly?
Their is a large group of people called skeptics that live in the real world.
They only believe in things they can see, touch, weigh and measure.
No matter how many miracles performed right in front of them the odds of them
believing that God truly worked a miracle would be slim to none.
The Pharisees, Herod, the Romans elite, Judas had hardened their hearts to all the wonders of Jesus
Christ surely they weren’t going to believe the Apostles when they started to do the same thing after Jesus ascended into Heaven.
The whole social order would have been put into an uproar, the Pharisees and ruling classes, would have lost their livelihoods. They would had to change their entire routines for the day and their popularity would no longer admired them and loooked at them as leaders.
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It takes a long time to slaughter those who don’t agree with you. Especially if they’re putting up a fight about it, as my ancestors did. That’s why.
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Hel is an entity, a gentle guardian of the dead, not a place. Sheol as mentioned in the bible for non believers in their faith is merely eternal death ("sheol" translated means "grave"). Which isn’t a bad thing in my faith. Misinterpretations annoy me, which is probably their "thing".
I’m a Nordic Heathen. Sensible in some ways in other words.
Jesus never performed miracles. The Greek writers of the Gospels used sources from their native religions to tell Jesus’ narrative.
Here’s something relevant that I wrote on another question that you might be interested in:
It’s definitely possible that Jesus never existed.
Note all the similarities and parallels between Jesus and many popular Greek myths.
It’s common for Greek mythological figures to have a divine father and a mortal mother (much like how Jesus was supposedly the son of God and a mortal woman who was allegedly a young virgin). For instance, Hercules’ father was Zeus, the god of sky and thunder, and his mother was Alcmene, a mortal.
There are also many parallels between Jesus and the cult of Dionysus. Wine plays a very symbolic role in both. Both represent the dying-god mythological arch-type. Both have a ritual involving bread and wine.
Basically, Christianity is nothing more than a Judaized version of Greek paganism.
Now there are two possibilities:
1. Jesus was never really born. The Greek writers of the four Gospels merely invented a Jewish character and used sources from their native religions to tell his narrative.
2. Jesus did exist, but his narrative was nothing like in the Gospels. Paul, unable to convince the Jews that Jesus was the messiah, decided to preach Jesus’ teachings to the Greek gentiles. Jesus’ narrative wasn’t written down until later, so it got distorted over time, much like the children’s game telephone, and when it was finally written down it was very unlike the original narrative.
I’m not sure if I should believe the first or second possibility, but if I had to chose I would go with number one.
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No, everyone around the world would not believe him instantly. Criss Angel performs the exact same "miracles" that Jesus did constantly, and almost everyone knows that he’s just an illusionist. Only superstitious Stone Age followers would believe him instantly.
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Really??? When Jesus came ( and before the New Testament was written ) we were under the law of Moses… that law plainly states " Thou shalt not have any Gods before Me"
And your claim that if He were to come today and perform miracles we would "ALL" believe is as far from the truth as you can get… that has already been proven… the Holy Words of God have been available for all and not all believe… faith is something you have… it isn’t something you get… to have faith is to believe in something that you have not yet experienced but believe it will happen…
Jesus will come again… and if you are waiting till then, it will be to late…
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3000 people became Christians the first time Peter preached.
The number grew to five thousand the next time he preached Jesus.
This even after the leader of the movement was crucified and put to utter shame before all the people; being betrayed by the religious leaders into the hands of their hated enemies.
Gamaliel, the great and esteemed Rabbi, who was the Apostle Paul’s tutor made this comment, when the Sanhedrin was contemplating murdering Peter and John:
"But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a little while. Then he addressed them: "Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."
Acts 5:34-39
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No , they wouldn’t just latch onto the new Messiah
. People doubt there were people walking on the moon. Some people still fight the Scopes monkey trials. There are still people who are convinced the earth is flat.
. Some people believe they are still seeing Elvis .
I distrust my microwave.
I am not sure about dental x rays and their safety or if Brad Pitt and and Angelina are really having marital problems and he is calling up that girl from Friends.
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the inquisitions of the "holy"roman empire murdered approximately150 million during middle ages so even if you were not a jewish christian it certainly would discourage most from contemplating becoming one.
the 2 prophets of revelation 11 are going to be doing Messiah’s work from Jerusalem for the length of the tribulation of 3 1/2 years and at the end of it just before Messiah arrives they get murdered for their trouble and the whole world goes into an x mass like frenzy of giving each other presents as they rejoice. hooray their dead ?
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Matthew 13
10 The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"
11 He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but NOT TO THEM.
Luke 12:32
Do not be afraid, LITTLE FLOCK, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.
Matthew 20:16
For many are called, but FEW chosen.
It was/is not Jesus’ intention to convert many people in ‘this present evil age’; just enough to rule with him in the kingdom for 1000 years.
No-one is going to hell. The doctrine of hell is blasphemous to a loving God.
Christians are deceived about it, because of mistranslations in the bible and church traditional teachings.
Jesus is the Saviour of the world. He will not fail at this task, despite church teaching to the contrary.
1 Corinthians 3:15
If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be SAVED, yet so as through fire.
Deuteronomy 4:24
For the LORD your God is a consuming fire…
Mark 9:49
Everyone’s going through a refining fire sooner or later, but you’ll be well-preserved, protected from the eternal flames.
Zechariah 13
1 …to cleanse them from sin and impurity…
9 …I will bring into the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
1 Timothy 4:10
…the living God, who is the Saviour of ALL men, and especially of those who believe.
The rest of humanity will be converted after the 2nd resurrection in the Judgement period.
Isaiah 26:9
When your judgements come upon the earth, the people of the world LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
That is the Gospel - the GOOD news.
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Even today there are many evangelists who do many miracle healings,even raising dead to life.1000s of bible prophecies have been already fulfilled,300 messianic prophecies have already been fulfilled by Jesus,thus proving himself to be the messiah/christ.Bible code discovered by israeli scientist Eliyahu Rips,confirmed by new york atheist journalist michael drosnin(he became a believer seeing the evidence of God) predicted death of Yitzhak Rabin-israeli PM,and many info of events in past,present and future.Code’s latest prediction is current israeli PM-Benyanin Netanyahu will be killed in an arab-israeli war,which will inflame into WW3.Now lets look at 10 of the more than 1000s of fulfilled biblical prophecies as an evidence against spirit of unbelief.
1.History-In AD70 invading armies of Rome,under emperor Titus destroyed jerusalem and it’s temple.Resulted in scattering of Jews around the world.
Bible prophecy-Jesus said in matthew 24.2-"look at all these things(temple and surrounding buildings)surely i say to you,not a single stone will be left in it’s place,every one of them will be thrown down".
2.History-creation of state of Israel-1948,continuing restoration of israel prior to it and after that.
Bible prophecy-Amos 9.14-15,"i will bring my people back to their land,they will rebuilt their ruined cities and live there,they will plant vineyards and drink their wine,and gardens and eat their fruits,i will plant my people on the land i gave them and the will not be pulled up again."
Isiah66:7-8(likens birth of israel,to a women giving birth before labor pain starts-israel had to endure much attacks from it’s arab neighbours after it became an independent state in 1948)
Ezekiel 37:21-22(israel would be re-established as a united nation)
Ezekiel 4:3-6,leviticus 26.18,26.21,26.24,26.28(predicts time of restablishment of israel-1948,may14.)
Leviticus26:3,7-8(israeli army would be disproptionately powerful)
3.History:Cyrus b/m king of Persia in 559 BC,9 years after, he conqeured media.Few years after that,he allowed Jews to return to Israel and gave order to rebuilt Jerusalem and its temple.
Bible prophecy:Isiah44:28,45:1-13(speaks plainly cyrus is appointed to rebuilt Jerusalem and the temple and set the captives free-written nearly 150 years before cyrus was born,prophet Isiah foretold his birth,his name & the task his creator predetermined him to do.
Ezra:chapter 3-6,cofirms historic acts of cyrus,and darius in restoration of Jerusalem.
4.History-Alexander the great of macedonia/greece:336-323 BC,He conquere vast lands from macedonia to india in the east.Died at a young age of 33.After his death his empire was divided b/n 4 of his generals-egypt(ptolomy),syria(seleucus),… & media/asia.
Bible prophecy:Daniel 11:3-4-(heroic king will appear,conquering vast lands and rule over huge empire,die at height of his power,empire broken to 4 parts)
5.History-Babylonian captivity of Jews for 70 years from 607BC to 537BC.Bible prophecy-Jeremiah 25.11(predicts babylonian captivity for 70 years),Deutronomy 29:24-29(Moses predicts babylonian captivity of Jews)
6.History-Babylon conquered and destroyed in 537 BC,and never inahabited again.
Bible prophecy:Isiah13:1-22,Jeremiah 52:1-44(both predict destruction of babylon,never to be inhabited again)
7.History-Phoenician city of Tyre,destroyed by alexander the great in 332 BC.The city has never been rebuilt,all that is found in the area today is fisherman spreading their nets.
Bible prophecy:Ezekiel 26.1-21(predicts Tyre will be destroyed/laid waste,it will only be a place for spreading nets & city itself never rebuilt)
8.History-City of Nineveh,destroyed in 612 BC,ninevites got scattered and ceased to exist as a people and city never rebuilt.Archeological evidence show city destroyed by fire.
Bible prophecy-Whole book of Nahum(specifically 2.10,3.15-19)-says city destroyed by fire,desolate waste,people scattered never to return & city never rebuilt.
9.History-Egypt conquered by babylonians in 6th century BC,since that time egypt has remained a nation,but it has never again been a world power as it was before the conquest by babylonians nor ruled over any other nations.
Bible prophecy:Ezekiel 29:8-16 (predicts egypt will be conquered,however continue as a nation and it will not rule over nations anymore)
10.History-3 cities by the sea of galilee(chorazin,bethsaida,capernaum) destroyed by erthquake around 400AD.However,Tiberias another major city in the area remain to this day
Bible prophecy:Luke 10:13-15(Jesus pronounces "woe" unto these 3 cities,but says nothing of Tiberias).
Even after all these evidences people are not believing,because spirits of fallen angels are keeping them blind to the truth.Lets pray that holy spirit will show them truth of christ and lead them to salvation.
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thegodschurch.blogspot.com
Sigfried and Roy performed magic(miracles) and look at them now. Miracles by themselves do not produce long term popularity. The world does not share that level of gullibility.>_<
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It takes time to kill people and to make them realize that you are serious..
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